Prior to the position I currently enjoy as my own boss I was, essentially in house for a company called Thomas Miller. They are managers for the UK P&I club which is a protection indemnity group or an insurer, for those that are not familiar. And it was the largest insurer worldwide for liability losses for ships. And that experience gave me an appreciation for what it’s like to sit in a position of a client because I was the client for cases that had to go into litigation I had to hire outside counsel.

So, of course, I know the pressures of what it is to be an insurance claims handler handling hundreds of cases at a time and knowing what it is to have to report to my higher ups in terms of what’s happening in a case. So that helps me today because, of course, I know the pressures that a client may be under in terms of reporting, maybe, to a higher up and the pressures that also a vessel owner has because they, themselves have to deal with insurers. And it was an experience that continues to guide me today on how I handle cases on a daily basis.