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you know we represent Mike
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Lindell you may have been aware of that
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he’s the pillow guy and we represented
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him well before his lawsuits with
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Dominion voting systems he’s trying to
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protect us all
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from
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um inaccurate vote counts by tabulation
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machines that can be uh manipulated
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without people even knowing you can be
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hacked and
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manipulated and
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so the voting machine companies sued him
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for defamation because he said you know
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that their their machines are swiss
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cheese and you can get in and hack
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computers and we shouldn’t be using them
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there were three significant cases
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brought against my pillow and Mike
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Lindell uh one in Washington DC by
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Dominion voting systems another in
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Minnesota by smartmatic Corporation and
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another uh by an individual accusing
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Lindell and my pillow of um defamation
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in uh
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Colorado and in our handling of those
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significant billion doll
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lawsuits uh we not only became much more
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familiar with the election system uh
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that we use here in this country in in
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Most states if not all but the uh ways
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in which they can be manipulated or
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hacked and what the security is that’s
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being used to prevent that and all of
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those issues to determine whether what
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Mike Lindell was
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saying uh he had a good faith basis to
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say whether they end up being true or
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not and
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so it’s the interface between the first
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Amendment and defamation law and the
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first amendment allows us to say
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whatever
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whenever uh we want in particularly when
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challenging the
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government which in these cases we
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argued these voting system companies
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were effectively the government because
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they were counting our votes you can’t
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just Outsource the accounting of votes
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and claim you’re not the government
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government’s quintessential
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responsibility is to count in a democ
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y uh and and to determine winners based
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on a vote count so when we were handling
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these
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cases uh and you have the total uh
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ability to challenge the government and
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to speak out against the
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government uh we looked at the interface
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with defamation law because there is an
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exception in the First Amendment
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you can say whatever you want but you
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cannot uh say things particularly
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regarding public
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figures uh with actual malice which
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means Reckless disregard of the truth
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you know it’s a not just a false
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statement because even if it’s false you
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can say it but if you did know it was
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false you
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can’t or if you should have known that
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it was false That’s The Cutting Edge
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between where the First Amendment runs
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and where it ends and defamation
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begins and the US Supreme Court is now
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starting to look at those cases to draw
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that line and to determine where that
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line is and our firm is at The Cutting
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Edge of that uh and so we uh uh we do a
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lot of First Amendment work and
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defamation work